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		<title>By: Jeff Mc Clung</title>
		<link>http://www.jonathancliff.com/2008/05/abnormal-childrens-pastor/comment-page-1/#comment-1702</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Mc Clung</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Aug 2010 04:43:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for putting this into words for us guys in Children&#039;s Ministry. You nailed it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for putting this into words for us guys in Children&#8217;s Ministry. You nailed it!</p>
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		<title>By: Kenny</title>
		<link>http://www.jonathancliff.com/2008/05/abnormal-childrens-pastor/comment-page-1/#comment-541</link>
		<dc:creator>Kenny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 19:32:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s been a year since I posted a comment on this post... so I thought I&#039;d do it again. Has anything changed? If you were to write this post again, would you add anything or change anything?

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;Kenny´s last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/ChildrensMinistryOnline/~3/nOsXWC2-MwI/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The problem with Sunday small groups&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s been a year since I posted a comment on this post&#8230; so I thought I&#8217;d do it again. Has anything changed? If you were to write this post again, would you add anything or change anything?</p>
<p><abbr><em>Kenny´s last blog post..<a href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/ChildrensMinistryOnline/~3/nOsXWC2-MwI/" rel="nofollow">The problem with Sunday small groups</a></em></abbr></p>
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		<title>By: Joe Puentes</title>
		<link>http://www.jonathancliff.com/2008/05/abnormal-childrens-pastor/comment-page-1/#comment-464</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Puentes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 18:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Jonathan - I know I&#039;m almost a year late in replying to this post, but I just read it... I can relate to your post, I have spent most of the past 13 years of ministry in student ministry as the middle school pastor (about three years of it was in cm, but as the preteen pastor). I am now moving into the cm role and the family ministries director role... &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I have had some issues internally within myself, cause most of the cm &quot;guys&quot; (Which &quot;guys&quot; seem hard to come by in cm roles) seem to fit the &quot;normal&quot; cm role and us student ministries &quot;guys&quot; would call them fanny-packers, because they wear fanny-packs to carry all their stuff in instead of backpacks like student min &quot;guys&quot; (Sorry if i offended someone).&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I am an abnormal cm person myself, especially since my church has never had a &quot;guy&quot; cm before. What&#039;s funny is that all the things you listed in this post I can say about myself... Thanks, its good to know I&#039;m not the only one... I do think all our ministries are important in the church, but have always felt children&#039;s ministry should be the most supported, most financed, and most encouraged. To be honest, if my new role required me to do some of the traditional cm stuff, instead of being the administrator, encourager of staff, vision-caster (Big-picture), promotor of cm, leader, supporter of the children&#039;s ministry, plus help me have more of a complete picture of our family ministries then I &quot;MIGHT&quot; not have made the role switch... just being honest. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Thanks for your blog - keep up the awesome work.  &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Joe</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Jonathan &#8211; I know I&#8217;m almost a year late in replying to this post, but I just read it&#8230; I can relate to your post, I have spent most of the past 13 years of ministry in student ministry as the middle school pastor (about three years of it was in cm, but as the preteen pastor). I am now moving into the cm role and the family ministries director role&#8230; </p>
<p>I have had some issues internally within myself, cause most of the cm &#8220;guys&#8221; (Which &#8220;guys&#8221; seem hard to come by in cm roles) seem to fit the &#8220;normal&#8221; cm role and us student ministries &#8220;guys&#8221; would call them fanny-packers, because they wear fanny-packs to carry all their stuff in instead of backpacks like student min &#8220;guys&#8221; (Sorry if i offended someone).</p>
<p>I am an abnormal cm person myself, especially since my church has never had a &#8220;guy&#8221; cm before. What&#8217;s funny is that all the things you listed in this post I can say about myself&#8230; Thanks, its good to know I&#8217;m not the only one&#8230; I do think all our ministries are important in the church, but have always felt children&#8217;s ministry should be the most supported, most financed, and most encouraged. To be honest, if my new role required me to do some of the traditional cm stuff, instead of being the administrator, encourager of staff, vision-caster (Big-picture), promotor of cm, leader, supporter of the children&#8217;s ministry, plus help me have more of a complete picture of our family ministries then I &#8220;MIGHT&#8221; not have made the role switch&#8230; just being honest. </p>
<p>Thanks for your blog &#8211; keep up the awesome work.  </p>
<p>Joe</p>
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		<title>By: Forever Altared</title>
		<link>http://www.jonathancliff.com/2008/05/abnormal-childrens-pastor/comment-page-1/#comment-439</link>
		<dc:creator>Forever Altared</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 13:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JONATHAN - &lt;br/&gt;I need to find a children&#039;s pastor - will you help me?&lt;br/&gt;Hey man, seriously if you know someone who would like to continue their ministry to kids in a different environment (a safe one) let me know.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Behave yourself and I hear the awesome work you are doing at Trinity!  Give everyone there our love.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;PB</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JONATHAN &#8211; <br />I need to find a children&#8217;s pastor &#8211; will you help me?<br />Hey man, seriously if you know someone who would like to continue their ministry to kids in a different environment (a safe one) let me know.</p>
<p>Behave yourself and I hear the awesome work you are doing at Trinity!  Give everyone there our love.</p>
<p>PB</p>
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		<title>By: KC</title>
		<link>http://www.jonathancliff.com/2008/05/abnormal-childrens-pastor/comment-page-1/#comment-317</link>
		<dc:creator>KC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Aug 2008 04:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d have to agree that you&#039;re indeed abnormal for a children&#039;s pastor.  It&#039;s ok.  Don&#039;t give in to the peer pressure to use puppets ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d have to agree that you&#8217;re indeed abnormal for a children&#8217;s pastor.  It&#8217;s ok.  Don&#8217;t give in to the peer pressure to use puppets ;)</p>
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		<title>By: Kenny</title>
		<link>http://www.jonathancliff.com/2008/05/abnormal-childrens-pastor/comment-page-1/#comment-266</link>
		<dc:creator>Kenny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2008 03:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dude! I loved this post! I think you and I came from the same mold.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Yes, I too have thrown away puppets (gasp)! Not because they were worn out though... because they give me nightmares.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Oh, and for the record. I&#039;ve never been a clown. Ever. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I do however like to make pushes from the stage, only because it is almost my only reach into the world of non-parents. When at a big church, it&#039;s hard for me (and my team) to know everyone. I feel like I can lay the vision well enough that I&#039;ll get some conversations out of the deal... and that&#039;s usually how I snag some of the young marrieds, singles and college students (they&#039;re not in my normal circles of influence).&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Great post. I didn&#039;t know you had a blog. I&#039;m a subscriber now!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dude! I loved this post! I think you and I came from the same mold.</p>
<p>Yes, I too have thrown away puppets (gasp)! Not because they were worn out though&#8230; because they give me nightmares.</p>
<p>Oh, and for the record. I&#8217;ve never been a clown. Ever. </p>
<p>I do however like to make pushes from the stage, only because it is almost my only reach into the world of non-parents. When at a big church, it&#8217;s hard for me (and my team) to know everyone. I feel like I can lay the vision well enough that I&#8217;ll get some conversations out of the deal&#8230; and that&#8217;s usually how I snag some of the young marrieds, singles and college students (they&#8217;re not in my normal circles of influence).</p>
<p>Great post. I didn&#8217;t know you had a blog. I&#8217;m a subscriber now!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Paige</title>
		<link>http://www.jonathancliff.com/2008/05/abnormal-childrens-pastor/comment-page-1/#comment-256</link>
		<dc:creator>Paige</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 14:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love this post. As a new (3 years or so) pastor&#039;s wife I struggle with reconciling the &#039;real&#039; me with what people think a pastor&#039;s wife should be. Thanks for reminding me that it is o.k. to be me even if &#039;me&#039; doesn&#039;t line up with traditional thoughts of what a pastor&#039;s wife should be. Also, my apologies for whoever it was from the homeschool community that made you feel the need to post that last comment. Most homeschoolers feel the same way you do, that each of us, as parents, have the right decide what is the best educational choice for our children.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love this post. As a new (3 years or so) pastor&#8217;s wife I struggle with reconciling the &#8216;real&#8217; me with what people think a pastor&#8217;s wife should be. Thanks for reminding me that it is o.k. to be me even if &#8216;me&#8217; doesn&#8217;t line up with traditional thoughts of what a pastor&#8217;s wife should be. Also, my apologies for whoever it was from the homeschool community that made you feel the need to post that last comment. Most homeschoolers feel the same way you do, that each of us, as parents, have the right decide what is the best educational choice for our children.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 May 2008 18:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Praying for you...your house, the mortgage payment, expenses, all of it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Praying for you&#8230;your house, the mortgage payment, expenses, all of it.</p>
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		<title>By: JC</title>
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		<dc:creator>JC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 May 2008 02:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I feel like I should go ahead and say that the kids and sometimes their parents do indeed call me Pastor Jonathan.  I agree with Sam, there is a respect issue with it.  I&#039;ve just never felt comfortable with it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I feel like I should go ahead and say that the kids and sometimes their parents do indeed call me Pastor Jonathan.  I agree with Sam, there is a respect issue with it.  I&#8217;ve just never felt comfortable with it.</p>
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		<title>By: Samuel</title>
		<link>http://www.jonathancliff.com/2008/05/abnormal-childrens-pastor/comment-page-1/#comment-253</link>
		<dc:creator>Samuel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 May 2008 01:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very good stuff. I actually laughed out loud. Very funny. Like Matt I to have dressed up like a clown (please note the use of past tense). I do have the kids call me Pastor Sam but just the kids. I am totally not into titles but I think it is good for kids to be respectful. Great post thanks for your honesty.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very good stuff. I actually laughed out loud. Very funny. Like Matt I to have dressed up like a clown (please note the use of past tense). I do have the kids call me Pastor Sam but just the kids. I am totally not into titles but I think it is good for kids to be respectful. Great post thanks for your honesty.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt McKee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt McKee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 12:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Incredible post.  In fact it has inspired me to do the same on my blog.  I would say that I very similar with all but 2 of your points.  Unfortunately I have dressed up like a clown and kids do call me Pastor Matt.  Thanks for letting us know who you are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Incredible post.  In fact it has inspired me to do the same on my blog.  I would say that I very similar with all but 2 of your points.  Unfortunately I have dressed up like a clown and kids do call me Pastor Matt.  Thanks for letting us know who you are.</p>
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