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		<title>By: My Orange Story &#124; jonathancliff.com</title>
		<link>http://www.jonathancliff.com/2009/08/orange-baby-steps-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-2396</link>
		<dc:creator>My Orange Story &#124; jonathancliff.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Apr 2011 10:48:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] and what may not work; but I was unwilling to throw in the towel.  We started taking teeny, tiny Orange baby steps to connect our families with our Children&#8217;s Ministry.  Then little by little it started to [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] and what may not work; but I was unwilling to throw in the towel.  We started taking teeny, tiny Orange baby steps to connect our families with our Children&#8217;s Ministry.  Then little by little it started to [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Reactivate the Family &#124; jonathancliff.com</title>
		<link>http://www.jonathancliff.com/2009/08/orange-baby-steps-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-1378</link>
		<dc:creator>Reactivate the Family &#124; jonathancliff.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jan 2010 13:19:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] small things I&#8217;ve done to reactivate the family at my church.  I&#8217;ve taken some small baby steps with my event planning, baptism, and have changed the Child Dedication experience.  What I did was [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] small things I&#8217;ve done to reactivate the family at my church.  I&#8217;ve taken some small baby steps with my event planning, baptism, and have changed the Child Dedication experience.  What I did was [...]</p>
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		<title>By: THE Parent Sunday &#124; jonathancliff.com</title>
		<link>http://www.jonathancliff.com/2009/08/orange-baby-steps-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-730</link>
		<dc:creator>THE Parent Sunday &#124; jonathancliff.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 14:01:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I&#8217;ve chronicled our adventures at Trinity Church of getting families more involved in the spiritual experience we offer their children during our weekend environments (Check out our Going Orange Baby Steps #1 and Baby Steps #2.) [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I&#8217;ve chronicled our adventures at Trinity Church of getting families more involved in the spiritual experience we offer their children during our weekend environments (Check out our Going Orange Baby Steps #1 and Baby Steps #2.) [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Anthony Prince</title>
		<link>http://www.jonathancliff.com/2009/08/orange-baby-steps-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-640</link>
		<dc:creator>Anthony Prince</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 20:57:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How cool is it that your parents are reading your blog and only semi-lurking?!

Now, if they could get to a place where they actually posted their name so that you could have real dialog with them... that&#039;d be awesome.
.-= Anthony Prince´s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://westcoastcm.wordpress.com/2009/08/10/top-10-childrens-ministry-resources-1-the-collaborating-community/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Top 10 Children’s Ministry Resources: #1 The Collaborating Community&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How cool is it that your parents are reading your blog and only semi-lurking?!</p>
<p>Now, if they could get to a place where they actually posted their name so that you could have real dialog with them&#8230; that&#8217;d be awesome.<br />
.-= Anthony Prince´s last blog ..<a href="http://westcoastcm.wordpress.com/2009/08/10/top-10-childrens-ministry-resources-1-the-collaborating-community/" rel="nofollow">Top 10 Children’s Ministry Resources: #1 The Collaborating Community</a> =-.</p>
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		<title>By: Kendra Golden</title>
		<link>http://www.jonathancliff.com/2009/08/orange-baby-steps-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-638</link>
		<dc:creator>Kendra Golden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 02:57:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think these are great steps! Another benefit of starting with things like these is that it gives you a platform to bleed orange all over the parents that participate in these events. Use every single one of these times as an opportunity to cast vision to them for impacting ad leading their kids and you&#039;ll leave them wanting more. These are great examples of &quot;You can lead a horse to water, but you can&#039;t make him drink...but you can feed him a handful of salt to make him thirsty.&quot; :)
.-= Kendra Golden´s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://metacognician.blogspot.com/2009/08/joel-3.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Joel 3&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think these are great steps! Another benefit of starting with things like these is that it gives you a platform to bleed orange all over the parents that participate in these events. Use every single one of these times as an opportunity to cast vision to them for impacting ad leading their kids and you&#8217;ll leave them wanting more. These are great examples of &#8220;You can lead a horse to water, but you can&#8217;t make him drink&#8230;but you can feed him a handful of salt to make him thirsty.&#8221; :)<br />
.-= Kendra Golden´s last blog ..<a href="http://metacognician.blogspot.com/2009/08/joel-3.html" rel="nofollow">Joel 3</a> =-.</p>
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		<title>By: acrathbone</title>
		<link>http://www.jonathancliff.com/2009/08/orange-baby-steps-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-637</link>
		<dc:creator>acrathbone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Aug 2009 02:11:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Those are some great transitional steps.  I too am in an older church and it took me about 3 years of planting seeds and casting the vision before we launched into an actual family production.  And a year later our Pre-K and Student ministries began to &quot;think Orange&quot; as well.  Keep plugging away!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those are some great transitional steps.  I too am in an older church and it took me about 3 years of planting seeds and casting the vision before we launched into an actual family production.  And a year later our Pre-K and Student ministries began to &#8220;think Orange&#8221; as well.  Keep plugging away!</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Cliff</title>
		<link>http://www.jonathancliff.com/2009/08/orange-baby-steps-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-635</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan Cliff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Aug 2009 03:21:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When I say &quot;occasional Altar Calls&quot; I&#039;m talking about those times every 8 weeks that we make a specific push for Salvation.  Every week, the main point, lesson idea, etc... will point to Jesus; but we make a special lesson every 8 weeks that is all about choosing to follow Jesus as a believer.  

I&#039;m probably using Children&#039;s Pastor language and not making it clear enough that we give our kids many opportunities to invite Jesus to be the Lord of their life.  Does that clear up the confusion?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I say &#8220;occasional Altar Calls&#8221; I&#8217;m talking about those times every 8 weeks that we make a specific push for Salvation.  Every week, the main point, lesson idea, etc&#8230; will point to Jesus; but we make a special lesson every 8 weeks that is all about choosing to follow Jesus as a believer.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m probably using Children&#8217;s Pastor language and not making it clear enough that we give our kids many opportunities to invite Jesus to be the Lord of their life.  Does that clear up the confusion?</p>
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		<title>By: parent</title>
		<link>http://www.jonathancliff.com/2009/08/orange-baby-steps-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-634</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Aug 2009 03:14:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love the ideas for getting families more involved with their kids.  I do have to say, though, that it concerns me to read &quot;We’ll still do occasional large group altar calls....&quot;  

There are many, many children whose parents simply WON&#039;T talk to them about this at home.  Kids whose families never discuss Jesus or anything about Him outside the church walls.  Kids who come from non-Christian homes and visit Trinity with a friend.  Many kids.  M.a.n.y kids.  Please don&#039;t remove this opportunity for kids to meet Jesus who otherwise would never have the chance.  YES, I completely agree it&#039;s the parents&#039; responsibility, but let&#039;s face it, a lot of the time it&#039;s just not going to happen the way it&#039;s &quot;supposed&quot; to.

Please, I would ask you to seriously reconsider the decision to give only &quot;occasional&quot; altar calls.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love the ideas for getting families more involved with their kids.  I do have to say, though, that it concerns me to read &#8220;We’ll still do occasional large group altar calls&#8230;.&#8221;  </p>
<p>There are many, many children whose parents simply WON&#8217;T talk to them about this at home.  Kids whose families never discuss Jesus or anything about Him outside the church walls.  Kids who come from non-Christian homes and visit Trinity with a friend.  Many kids.  M.a.n.y kids.  Please don&#8217;t remove this opportunity for kids to meet Jesus who otherwise would never have the chance.  YES, I completely agree it&#8217;s the parents&#8217; responsibility, but let&#8217;s face it, a lot of the time it&#8217;s just not going to happen the way it&#8217;s &#8220;supposed&#8221; to.</p>
<p>Please, I would ask you to seriously reconsider the decision to give only &#8220;occasional&#8221; altar calls.</p>
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		<title>By: Twitted by jonathancliff</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 21:00:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Matthew</title>
		<link>http://www.jonathancliff.com/2009/08/orange-baby-steps-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-632</link>
		<dc:creator>Matthew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 19:05:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good and well needed changes!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good and well needed changes!</p>
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