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	<title>Comments on: 5 Things I Hate About Children&#8217;s Ministry</title>
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		<title>By: The Children&#39;s Ministry Blog Patrol (December 2009) &#171; Dad in the Middle</title>
		<link>http://www.jonathancliff.com/2009/12/5-things-i-hate-about-childrens-ministry/comment-page-1/#comment-1396</link>
		<dc:creator>The Children&#39;s Ministry Blog Patrol (December 2009) &#171; Dad in the Middle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jan 2010 01:27:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: The Children&#8217;s Ministry Blog Patrol (December 2009) &#171; Dad In The Middle</title>
		<link>http://www.jonathancliff.com/2009/12/5-things-i-hate-about-childrens-ministry/comment-page-1/#comment-1226</link>
		<dc:creator>The Children&#8217;s Ministry Blog Patrol (December 2009) &#171; Dad In The Middle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jan 2010 15:59:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Show Me The Love &#124; jonathancliff.com</title>
		<link>http://www.jonathancliff.com/2009/12/5-things-i-hate-about-childrens-ministry/comment-page-1/#comment-1086</link>
		<dc:creator>Show Me The Love &#124; jonathancliff.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Dec 2009 22:15:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the most popular blog posting series I&#8217;ve ever done was on the 5 Things I Hate about Children&#8217;s Ministry.  Give it a chance and read it again for the first time.  If you left comments, then I really [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] the most popular blog posting series I&#8217;ve ever done was on the 5 Things I Hate about Children&#8217;s Ministry.  Give it a chance and read it again for the first time.  If you left comments, then I really [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Marty Martin</title>
		<link>http://www.jonathancliff.com/2009/12/5-things-i-hate-about-childrens-ministry/comment-page-1/#comment-1027</link>
		<dc:creator>Marty Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Dec 2009 14:34:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry about that (the heart comment). I did read all five posts. From a personal standpoint I was reminded and challenged of some bad habits that are easy to slide back into. My greater concern is that we as chidlren&#039;s ministry leaders encourage each other. So I dont want to discourage you either! Just wanted to share an observation on how it could appear to be putting someone down, espceially if they read it in the wron moment! Glad to know that bright and enthusaitic people like you are passionate about reaching kids!
.-= Marty Martin´s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://kidkove.blogspot.com/2009/12/children-ministry-quoteswmv.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Children&#039;s Ministry quotes.wmv&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry about that (the heart comment). I did read all five posts. From a personal standpoint I was reminded and challenged of some bad habits that are easy to slide back into. My greater concern is that we as chidlren&#8217;s ministry leaders encourage each other. So I dont want to discourage you either! Just wanted to share an observation on how it could appear to be putting someone down, espceially if they read it in the wron moment! Glad to know that bright and enthusaitic people like you are passionate about reaching kids!<br />
.-= Marty Martin´s last blog ..<a href="http://kidkove.blogspot.com/2009/12/children-ministry-quoteswmv.html" rel="nofollow">Children&#8217;s Ministry quotes.wmv</a> =-.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Cliff</title>
		<link>http://www.jonathancliff.com/2009/12/5-things-i-hate-about-childrens-ministry/comment-page-1/#comment-1026</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan Cliff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2009 22:32:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for reading the blog post.  I hope you took the time to read all five posts, and not just the introduction.  I mentioned that all 5 are traits I see in myself, and try and be on guard against.  I&#039;m really trying to get all of us #kidmin folks out there to stop settling into roles that are unproductive and unnecessary.

I would hate for someone to ever say about me, &quot;Well, at least his heart is in the right place...&quot;  I&#039;d prefer both my heart and brain. :)  That would make a great book title, huh? 

Thanks again for reading the blog, and I look forward to more of your friendly comments!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for reading the blog post.  I hope you took the time to read all five posts, and not just the introduction.  I mentioned that all 5 are traits I see in myself, and try and be on guard against.  I&#8217;m really trying to get all of us #kidmin folks out there to stop settling into roles that are unproductive and unnecessary.</p>
<p>I would hate for someone to ever say about me, &#8220;Well, at least his heart is in the right place&#8230;&#8221;  I&#8217;d prefer both my heart and brain. :)  That would make a great book title, huh? </p>
<p>Thanks again for reading the blog, and I look forward to more of your friendly comments!</p>
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		<title>By: Marty Martin</title>
		<link>http://www.jonathancliff.com/2009/12/5-things-i-hate-about-childrens-ministry/comment-page-1/#comment-1025</link>
		<dc:creator>Marty Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2009 21:07:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am sure your heart is right man, but to me, as a CM veteran of 18 years now, you sound a bit caustic. Every person has different skillsets, different challenges and most are doing the best they can. some have been hurt and are in need of some understanding, not told they irrelevant or out of touch or whatever. Also I knwo you know it is still about relationships and some guy may have a puppet and sheet or flannelgraph but the kids know he loves them and he is making a difference. Keep up the good work, and please take my comments as those of caution and balance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am sure your heart is right man, but to me, as a CM veteran of 18 years now, you sound a bit caustic. Every person has different skillsets, different challenges and most are doing the best they can. some have been hurt and are in need of some understanding, not told they irrelevant or out of touch or whatever. Also I knwo you know it is still about relationships and some guy may have a puppet and sheet or flannelgraph but the kids know he loves them and he is making a difference. Keep up the good work, and please take my comments as those of caution and balance.</p>
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		<title>By: This Week in Children&#8217;s Ministry for 12/16/2009</title>
		<link>http://www.jonathancliff.com/2009/12/5-things-i-hate-about-childrens-ministry/comment-page-1/#comment-859</link>
		<dc:creator>This Week in Children&#8217;s Ministry for 12/16/2009</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 14:35:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Cliff is posting the 5 things he hates about children&#8217;s ministry. So far he&#8217;s posted [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Kenny</title>
		<link>http://www.jonathancliff.com/2009/12/5-things-i-hate-about-childrens-ministry/comment-page-1/#comment-839</link>
		<dc:creator>Kenny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 04:11:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ha!
.-= Kenny´s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/ChildrensMinistryOnline/~3/L-LOBdIg4bc/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Twitter Weekly Updates for 2009-12-13&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ha!<br />
.-= Kenny´s last blog ..<a href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/ChildrensMinistryOnline/~3/L-LOBdIg4bc/" rel="nofollow">Twitter Weekly Updates for 2009-12-13</a> =-.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam</title>
		<link>http://www.jonathancliff.com/2009/12/5-things-i-hate-about-childrens-ministry/comment-page-1/#comment-835</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 16:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your heart is black Chad. You need to get the word out to your fellow, 1. gotee sporting 2. Perl Jam listening 3. Emo wantabe 4. Spicing up your testimony to stay relevant 5. Pizza feeds and lockin, Buddies that times they are a changing in children&#039;s ministry. 

Ha ha! hope to see you at orange this year!
.-= Sam´s last undefined ..&lt;a href=&quot;0&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;If you register your site for free at &lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your heart is black Chad. You need to get the word out to your fellow, 1. gotee sporting 2. Perl Jam listening 3. Emo wantabe 4. Spicing up your testimony to stay relevant 5. Pizza feeds and lockin, Buddies that times they are a changing in children&#8217;s ministry. </p>
<p>Ha ha! hope to see you at orange this year!<br />
.-= Sam´s last undefined ..<a href="0" rel="nofollow">If you register your site for free at </a> =-.</p>
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		<title>By: chad swanzy</title>
		<link>http://www.jonathancliff.com/2009/12/5-things-i-hate-about-childrens-ministry/comment-page-1/#comment-834</link>
		<dc:creator>chad swanzy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 14:44:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1. FANNY PACK 2. HIGH WATERS 3. MUFFIN TOP 4. JUICE STAINED SHIRTS 5. LIGHT UP VELCRO SHOES

ha ha j/k</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1. FANNY PACK 2. HIGH WATERS 3. MUFFIN TOP 4. JUICE STAINED SHIRTS 5. LIGHT UP VELCRO SHOES</p>
<p>ha ha j/k</p>
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		<title>By: Todd McKeever</title>
		<link>http://www.jonathancliff.com/2009/12/5-things-i-hate-about-childrens-ministry/comment-page-1/#comment-833</link>
		<dc:creator>Todd McKeever</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 13:25:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are going to leave your first post like this? Not even going to start on your first one? First I have to be patient for my Christmas gifts an now for your next post as well.

Looking forward to seeing what you have to share with your 5.
.-= Todd McKeever´s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.take2ministries.com/blog/read/google_wave/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Google Wave&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are going to leave your first post like this? Not even going to start on your first one? First I have to be patient for my Christmas gifts an now for your next post as well.</p>
<p>Looking forward to seeing what you have to share with your 5.<br />
.-= Todd McKeever´s last blog ..<a href="http://www.take2ministries.com/blog/read/google_wave/" rel="nofollow">Google Wave</a> =-.</p>
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