Comments on: The Children’s Pastor that Ignores Early Childhood http://www.jonathancliff.com/2009/12/the-childrens-pastor-that-ignores-early-childhood/ Life, Family Ministry, and Life Again Wed, 08 Feb 2012 14:59:00 +0000 hourly 1 By: Top 15 Blog Post for 2009 | jonathancliff.com http://www.jonathancliff.com/2009/12/the-childrens-pastor-that-ignores-early-childhood/comment-page-1/#comment-1133 Top 15 Blog Post for 2009 | jonathancliff.com Thu, 31 Dec 2009 13:17:16 +0000 http://www.jonathancliff.com/?p=1322#comment-1133 [...] The Children’s Pastor that Ignores the Little People [...] [...] The Children’s Pastor that Ignores the Little People [...]

]]> By: Throwing Hate Down | jonathancliff.com http://www.jonathancliff.com/2009/12/the-childrens-pastor-that-ignores-early-childhood/comment-page-1/#comment-915 Throwing Hate Down | jonathancliff.com Fri, 18 Dec 2009 16:19:53 +0000 http://www.jonathancliff.com/?p=1322#comment-915 [...] #3 The Children’s Minister that Ignores Early Childhood [...] [...] #3 The Children’s Minister that Ignores Early Childhood [...]

]]> By: john federer http://www.jonathancliff.com/2009/12/the-childrens-pastor-that-ignores-early-childhood/comment-page-1/#comment-903 john federer Fri, 18 Dec 2009 04:27:27 +0000 http://www.jonathancliff.com/?p=1322#comment-903 i am blessed. i have a helpmeet who can run circles around me in nursery and preschool groups with about 70 kids under her belt it is a well oiled machine.i admit i love the elementary kids. maybe its because i "lost" a kid in my 2's & 3's class when i subbed for my wife to give her a break. not to worry he's alive. me on the other hand, i was banished from the class for life. i am blessed. i have a helpmeet who can run circles around me in nursery and preschool groups with about 70 kids under her belt it is a well oiled machine.i admit i love the elementary kids. maybe its because i “lost” a kid in my 2′s & 3′s class when i subbed for my wife to give her a break. not to worry he’s alive. me on the other hand, i was banished from the class for life.

]]> By: Sinking Ship Syndrome | jonathancliff.com http://www.jonathancliff.com/2009/12/the-childrens-pastor-that-ignores-early-childhood/comment-page-1/#comment-890 Sinking Ship Syndrome | jonathancliff.com Thu, 17 Dec 2009 15:06:43 +0000 http://www.jonathancliff.com/?p=1322#comment-890 [...] #3 The Children’s Minister that Ignores Early Childhood [...] [...] #3 The Children’s Minister that Ignores Early Childhood [...]

]]> By: Kendra Golden http://www.jonathancliff.com/2009/12/the-childrens-pastor-that-ignores-early-childhood/comment-page-1/#comment-882 Kendra Golden Thu, 17 Dec 2009 04:20:12 +0000 http://www.jonathancliff.com/?p=1322#comment-882 Don't even get me started... :) Good stuff. .-= Kendra Golden´s last blog ..<a href="http://metacognician.blogspot.com/2009/12/2-corinthians-2.html" rel="nofollow">2 Corinthians 2</a> =-. Don’t even get me started… :) Good stuff.
.-= Kendra Golden´s last blog ..2 Corinthians 2 =-.

]]> By: erin_english http://www.jonathancliff.com/2009/12/the-childrens-pastor-that-ignores-early-childhood/comment-page-1/#comment-878 erin_english Wed, 16 Dec 2009 23:32:09 +0000 http://www.jonathancliff.com/?p=1322#comment-878 WOOT!WOOT! Thank you for this post!! I am so blessed to be a part of a church that gets it as far as ministry to preschoolers. We start laying a foundation to grow a child into a spiritual champion from the time they are old enough to 1st come to class, 6weeks! If you google you will find all kinds of information and ideas of different things people and organizations spend big bucks on to teach babies; Everything from potty training (@6weeks, aka "EC") to reading, and on & on! One of the first names a baby will learn to recognize is his own, from repetition. So of course a baby could also learn to recognize that church is a fun and safe place where my teachers love JESUS and my teachers love me, and they can begin to learn and recognize the name of Jesus being associated with the loving care of a Baby Ministry volunteer. Again, thanks for a great post. I love that there are churches out there leading the way in ministry to our little ones. Go God!! .-= erin_english´s last blog ..<a href="http://kids.westsidefamilychurch.com/?p=682" rel="nofollow">Live Nativity for K-5th Graders</a> =-. WOOT!WOOT! Thank you for this post!! I am so blessed to be a part of a church that gets it as far as ministry to preschoolers. We start laying a foundation to grow a child into a spiritual champion from the time they are old enough to 1st come to class, 6weeks! If you google you will find all kinds of information and ideas of different things people and organizations spend big bucks on to teach babies; Everything from potty training (@6weeks, aka “EC”) to reading, and on & on! One of the first names a baby will learn to recognize is his own, from repetition. So of course a baby could also learn to recognize that church is a fun and safe place where my teachers love JESUS and my teachers love me, and they can begin to learn and recognize the name of Jesus being associated with the loving care of a Baby Ministry volunteer. Again, thanks for a great post. I love that there are churches out there leading the way in ministry to our little ones. Go God!!
.-= erin_english´s last blog ..Live Nativity for K-5th Graders =-.

]]> By: amy dolan http://www.jonathancliff.com/2009/12/the-childrens-pastor-that-ignores-early-childhood/comment-page-1/#comment-874 amy dolan Wed, 16 Dec 2009 18:55:38 +0000 http://www.jonathancliff.com/?p=1322#comment-874 thank you thank you for mentioning this! my first full-time ministry job was as 4/5 yr old teacher and curriculum writer at a large church. i saw first hand every week how a strong early childhood program directly affected the children's faith. and i think it's so important to empower parents to lead their preschoolers in faith - many parents (like some children's pastors) feel overwhelmed by the thought of connecting with their young children on spiritual matters. .-= amy dolan´s last blog ..<a href="http://lemonlimekids.wordpress.com/2009/12/14/emmanuel-god-with-us-today/" rel="nofollow">emmanuel: god with us today</a> =-. thank you thank you for mentioning this!

my first full-time ministry job was as 4/5 yr old teacher and curriculum writer at a large church. i saw first hand every week how a strong early childhood program directly affected the children’s faith.

and i think it’s so important to empower parents to lead their preschoolers in faith – many parents (like some children’s pastors) feel overwhelmed by the thought of connecting with their young children on spiritual matters.
.-= amy dolan´s last blog ..emmanuel: god with us today =-.

]]> By: Jonathan Cliff http://www.jonathancliff.com/2009/12/the-childrens-pastor-that-ignores-early-childhood/comment-page-1/#comment-873 Jonathan Cliff Wed, 16 Dec 2009 17:48:45 +0000 http://www.jonathancliff.com/?p=1322#comment-873 I love hearing men say they love this area, and we need more of you Scott! I love hearing men say they love this area, and we need more of you Scott!

]]> By: Jonathan Cliff http://www.jonathancliff.com/2009/12/the-childrens-pastor-that-ignores-early-childhood/comment-page-1/#comment-872 Jonathan Cliff Wed, 16 Dec 2009 17:47:16 +0000 http://www.jonathancliff.com/?p=1322#comment-872 Your conviction pails in comparison to mine! Your conviction pails in comparison to mine!

]]> By: Sam http://www.jonathancliff.com/2009/12/the-childrens-pastor-that-ignores-early-childhood/comment-page-1/#comment-871 Sam Wed, 16 Dec 2009 17:42:40 +0000 http://www.jonathancliff.com/?p=1322#comment-871 JC Great post again - love your insights! Hate all the things you hate. We are thin brothers separated at birth. Always love your humor and perspective. JC

Great post again – love your insights! Hate all the things you hate. We are thin brothers separated at birth.

Always love your humor and perspective.

]]> By: Rob http://www.jonathancliff.com/2009/12/the-childrens-pastor-that-ignores-early-childhood/comment-page-1/#comment-868 Rob Wed, 16 Dec 2009 17:01:02 +0000 http://www.jonathancliff.com/?p=1322#comment-868 Totally agree with you on this one. One of the greatest things we did was start Pat the Bible in our 18-24 month rooms. When you reach kids this age, you start them with a great foundation. Plus you hook young parents who will be dedicated to your ministry for years to come. Why? Because you found value in the person their whole world revolves around. .-= Rob´s last blog ..<a href="http://from30kfeet.typepad.com/from_30k_feet/2009/12/performance-appraisals.html" rel="nofollow">Performance Appraisals</a> =-. Totally agree with you on this one.

One of the greatest things we did was start Pat the Bible in our 18-24 month rooms. When you reach kids this age, you start them with a great foundation. Plus you hook young parents who will be dedicated to your ministry for years to come.

Why?

Because you found value in the person their whole world revolves around.
.-= Rob´s last blog ..Performance Appraisals =-.

]]> By: dan scott http://www.jonathancliff.com/2009/12/the-childrens-pastor-that-ignores-early-childhood/comment-page-1/#comment-866 dan scott Wed, 16 Dec 2009 16:18:21 +0000 http://www.jonathancliff.com/?p=1322#comment-866 dude! you're SO on! great post! my preschoolers would agree too! I was full time in Elementary for three years before we hired my full time equivalent on the Preschool side. We're FINALLY there... and man, the level of care our preschoolers (and preK volunteers) have receive now is exponentially greater than before! dude! you’re SO on! great post! my preschoolers would agree too!

I was full time in Elementary for three years before we hired my full time equivalent on the Preschool side.

We’re FINALLY there… and man, the level of care our preschoolers (and preK volunteers) have receive now is exponentially greater than before!

]]> By: Kendra Fleming http://www.jonathancliff.com/2009/12/the-childrens-pastor-that-ignores-early-childhood/comment-page-1/#comment-865 Kendra Fleming Wed, 16 Dec 2009 15:51:55 +0000 http://www.jonathancliff.com/?p=1322#comment-865 I completely agree! To be totally honest, children learn MORE and at a FASTER rate during the preschool years than at any other time in their life. We need to capitalize on that fact! They are at an age where they are believing what you're saying and turning those facts into a foundation they will build on into their future. I always wonder what people would think if we decided not to teach preschoolers their colors, the names of animals, or their numbers. Or what if we totally neglected engaging their imagination and developing their speech and motor skills. That would be such a huge neglectful waste of potential. The same is true about teaching our little one's truth! Great post! Kendra I completely agree! To be totally honest, children learn MORE and at a FASTER rate during the preschool years than at any other time in their life.

We need to capitalize on that fact! They are at an age where they are believing what you’re saying and turning those facts into a foundation they will build on into their future.

I always wonder what people would think if we decided not to teach preschoolers their colors, the names of animals, or their numbers. Or what if we totally neglected engaging their imagination and developing their speech and motor skills. That would be such a huge neglectful waste of potential.

The same is true about teaching our little one’s truth!

Great post!

Kendra

]]> By: Jeff http://www.jonathancliff.com/2009/12/the-childrens-pastor-that-ignores-early-childhood/comment-page-1/#comment-864 Jeff Wed, 16 Dec 2009 15:41:21 +0000 http://www.jonathancliff.com/?p=1322#comment-864 Wow! Love the blog, but I feel a twinge of conviction on each of the 5 areas so far. Truth hurts I guess. I'm glad that God has you speaking truth and pray that He will continue to help me to grow as a children's pastor. Wow! Love the blog, but I feel a twinge of conviction on each of the 5 areas so far. Truth hurts I guess. I’m glad that God has you speaking truth and pray that He will continue to help me to grow as a children’s pastor.

]]> By: Kenny http://www.jonathancliff.com/2009/12/the-childrens-pastor-that-ignores-early-childhood/comment-page-1/#comment-862 Kenny Wed, 16 Dec 2009 15:28:45 +0000 http://www.jonathancliff.com/?p=1322#comment-862 Here's what I've seen. No judgments here. If the Children's Pastor is a female, the Early Childhood department is much more likely to be well taken care of. If the Children's Pastor is a male, then elementary tends to get more of the focus. It's just a trend that I've seen, but doesn't happen all the time or everywhere. .-= Kenny´s last blog ..<a href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/ChildrensMinistryOnline/~3/L-LOBdIg4bc/" rel="nofollow">Twitter Weekly Updates for 2009-12-13</a> =-. Here’s what I’ve seen. No judgments here. If the Children’s Pastor is a female, the Early Childhood department is much more likely to be well taken care of. If the Children’s Pastor is a male, then elementary tends to get more of the focus. It’s just a trend that I’ve seen, but doesn’t happen all the time or everywhere.
.-= Kenny´s last blog ..Twitter Weekly Updates for 2009-12-13 =-.

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